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of the obama administration with david axelrod, the man most responsible for the election of the president in two successive political campaigns. >> in fact, when we were going over the jokes there was one joke about tim pawlenty, it was poor tim pawlenty, he has such promise except for that unfortunate middle dame bin laden. he said that is so hackneyed, he said in retrospect that is so yesterday. let's take that out. and then the next night when i heard about the raid, i thought my god, he knew when he was sitting there that he had made this decision. he went and performed a brilliantly that night at the white house correspondent dinner, not a trace of anxiety, though he must have felt it. and you know that is an important quality in a prident of the united states, to be able to make decisions on the basis of the best information you have and live with those decisions. >> rose: david axelrod for the hour next. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following: captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. . >> rose: david axelro
the president was making his last campaign speech this year, late at night on the eve of the election. i will be thinking about the journey that we've taken together. we, you know, i met barack obama 20 years ago. and we've been working together now for ten. and in a sense we came together at a time when we both were going through a kind of midlife professional crisis. he wondering whether he should continue in politics, me wondering whether i wanted to continue as a consultant because i felt it was becoming so hard edged and cynical. and i said to him after the election, i said he gave me my idealism become and i'm really grateful for that. so i will be thinking about the journey we took together. >> rose: he is an idealistic man. >> i believe he is. he's pragmatic. you know, i think he's very, very pragmatic. and that's a great quality in a very complicated worldment but he's in public life for a reason. charlie, the world separates-- world politics separates into two categories. the people without go into it because they want to be something. and the people without go into it because
this time as a negotiator because, a, he won an election and, b, he learned from the experience he is had in his first term? >> i think so, i don't know what david would say to that. as i look at this, a, it's clear he won the election and that gave him somewhat of a policy mandate. he was quite specific of what kind of grand bargain he envisioned that it would involve higher tax revenue. if the president hasn't won the election or had been as big a margin i don't think you would have seen the deal looking as favorable to the administration as it was. i think the president learned from the debt ceiling and what everybody forgets, the extension of the tax cuts at the end of 2010. i think one lesson that the full administration learned was just because you did a deal that was bipartisan doesn't actually automatically make it easier to make future deals. so they extended it at the end of 2010 in a heavily bipartisan way but that didn't stop us from a really debilitating and horrible experience on the debt ceiling and i think that was a backdrop to this negotiation. >> rose: david? >> i think
out of iraq and came on the joint staff the summer of 2008, it was getting worse. we had elections coming in the united states and then they had elections in afghanistan. my predecessor in afghanistan general mckernen asked for some troops in 2008. it was decided not to act on that request on the last months of president bush's administration and there was some ongoing assessments. when president obama assumed office with his team in january of 2009, in fact that request was tabled in front of him. and now we have a new administration who has been in the campaign rhetoric supportive of the war in afghanistan. they're faced with a larger quest for troops, faster than they might have liked to be comfortable and time to die just that. they're also hit with a financial crises when it first took over. and so the first response i think is to say well give us time to assess this. but instead, the military department of defense appropriately says we've got afghan elections approaching in the summer and if these forces are going to van impact to help widen security, they have to be approved
is interesting and dramatic. >> it came out of the election too which at was brilliant marketing. >> the day before. >> rose: you say david is -- >> i don't think spielberg, correct me if i am wrong has ever worked indoors. >> rose: that is my point. >> onset, onset as much as this, and that is hard for a guy who is kinetic the way as you are saying as he is, and i think he really got good at moving the camera around like in all of the legislative scenes and all of that is intensely dramatic and you saw the class there as director and stuck to kirschner's script and really honored it and it is a true collaboration just as mark bowl and catherine bigelow are a true collaboration i can do my anti-tourist think, either of those movies. >> rose: the collaboration between the two of them is, clearly is between steve and tony, but also catherine and mark, i mean, mackerel informed that film by the sort of -- because he is a former reporter, what he went to find in terms of the experiences and then figured out how to make a movie out of those experiences in a driving narrative, you know, and they c
they elected to let the intelligence people and the military people take the lead on the interviews, which they worked very hard at and tried very hard at. but wasn't their core skill set. and you know i think if we had life to live over again that would be something to reconsider. >> rose: did you ever engage in teaching at all or instructing at all in which you used the battle of algiers as a kind of explanation. >> when i used to teach terrorism courses back in los angeles with the joint terrorism task force, i would always start with the battle of algiers because as a historical document, it showed that the terrorists used terror to turn the people against their government because the government couldn't protect them. and the government went to such lengths to put the terrorists down that they became the other terrorists and the people turned on them. when you start a terrorism discussion you got to remember one of the goals of terrorism is to destabilize government and one of the risks is government will over react and destabilize itself. >> rose: peter did you advise the movie ma
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